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From: not-2-disclose@the.net
Subject: MS-DOS Kermit, more incapabalities
Message-ID: <021000014625not-2-disclose@the.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:57:03 GMT
Organization: Sympatico
To: kermit.misc@columbia.edu
Hello Fred,
About "Re: MS-DOS Kermit, more incapabalities" of February 7:
FS> I would have preferred to send this to you by private email, but you
FS> seem to be too impolite to use a real email address...
Oh but you know what? Right from this single innocent sentence i wonder
if i'm not witnessing what sounds like the sprout of an abusive, boring,
badly mannered social citizen posting that's confused, etc... and which
has a great potential for a ranting and flaming correspondance suite!...
I'm only using your own words! :-7
Impolite? You wish to act as a soldier of God and that's all the extent
of your perception?!? 8-o Didn't you notice that i've asked a SPECIFIC
question WHEN I INTRODUCED MYSELF to this NewsGroup, on January 1?! %-7
FS> "For him who is able to keep you from falling..."
Hummm... I have no argument to rival something that comes from so high;
just a dull piece of down-to-earth history, one i won't/can't *rewrite*:
MS> I'm new to this media; will somebody tell me the real dangers of
MS> disclosing my ~E-Mail~ address and the ways to defeat them?
May "Jesus Christ our Lord" help you make the difference between what He
would want you to "see" and what your own mind might allow you to "see".
I was refered to something which i'm supposed to know as mail "spoofing"
and no other information was given - i don't regret that i was cautious;
i'm quite satisfied with myself, actually! If i had been more trustfull
with giving up my real ~E-Mail~ address, there's a real risk that i'd be
flooded with real religious fanatic junk mail by now! Hell, no thanks!
Impolite? Yeah, maybe... I guess i can be that too! Follow the thread
and tell me that most people wouldn't mind in a similar situation. Just
in case you wouldn't have a complete "vision" (and it appears that yours
is slightly impaired, somewhat), here's the ~URL~ which leads toward the
Columbia ~FTP~ site where they seem to archive all the posts sent here:
ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/Kermit/newsgroups/
This thread is distributed over 2 archives, the one which begins on July
25, 1999 and the other which holds the most current posts (`Misc.TXT').
Judging from the size, that one might become permanent, like the others,
any time soon.
FS> ...I'm left with no choice but to post it to the world.
Most certainly, that must be no problem to a soldier of God who's acting
"boldly" in His name, on the contrary! And even if you fail Him, you'll
always have the relief that you fought a God against Evil battle... You
could sense that i'm displeased, that i made it obvious? Good! You are
under the impression that i repeated myself? Fine! Now, go figure why!
FS> ...kermit or the policies... ...it's THEIR software.
I hope you can make the difference between a program and a person. What
difference are you able to see in the way mr. Dallas E. Legan appears to
have been perceived by the team when he shared his ~IRC~ macro with this
NewsGroup? Hummm?!... Let me help you, in case you wonder; this quote
is verbatim, it's from the ~NG~'s archive in a post titled "Re: kermit /
tinyirc notes" and was posted on December 8, 1999. This is an excerpt:
************************************************************************
Thanks for your fascinating postings (C-Kermit and screen; stripping
ANSI sequences from session logs; IRC script...) -- it's always a treat
to see Kermit put to creative uses.
************************************************************************
The difference I see is that he was treated with RESPECT. Frankly, much
more than that, actually!... I never expected the team to grant me with
a similar mood, no. Respect? After things started to slip a bit - yes!
Don't just look at the words. Well, okay, look at the words if you like
but try to keep them in their context also... You will find that things
are not a simple matter of black & white, good or wrong, God and Evil...
Oh, and speaking of the Devil... Have you forgotten to take your pills?
Even if you're supposed to have taken a seat by now, i'm afraid that you
still need the pills because that's the only one thing which will really
keep you from falling, at the moment... 8-o
If you happen to have neglected your medication, just stop waisting your
time trying to read the little dancing dotted lights on your screen! Go
get your bottle at once and come back when you feel better... Then, you
will get another explanation about the difference in treatment that i've
just exposed above...
[...MultiMedia Emulation Mode Enabled - Background sound...]
FS> Pop!
8^o
FS> Gup, gup, gup... Ahhh!
%-O
[...MultiMedia Emulation Mode Disabled...]
OKay? You're with us? The difference is that the other guy is working
withing some bigger environments and he can be perceived as a *POTENTIAL
CONTRIBUTOR*! I tried to make it clear, from the start, that i was only
pretending to submit an `MS-Kermit' ~NNTP~ script - no strings attached.
Now, that Frank - author of the quote above - would find "fascinating" a
`C-Kermit' ~IRC~ script and yet, feel differently about mine is his. To
join the team in order to back-up his friends as they try to demonize me
is another story. To "demonize", haven't you noticed that little touch?
*THAT* is what i find fascinating all right!!! %-7
FS> You are, of course, welcome to request enhancements...
Me??? To REQUEST?!? To request what?... A constructive critic on some
piece of software becomes a pretext for personnal attacks and suggesting
becomes demanding?!! Maybe your doctor should revise his pronostic! It
is easy to review the chain of events, try that first before you feel as
if you must defend, euh... Defend what, actually?!... Euh... Well, go
make your home-work - it wouldn't hurt that you do before anything else!
Whatever i may have requested, you sure don't seem like you are aware of
what it is, actually! If you're looking for dragons, just try the team!
FS> You're welcome to stop it at any time.
I haven't got what a decent human being is entitled to expect, yet! :-7
FS> Please understand that while it's a free newsgroup, that you're NOT
FS> contributing anything useful... Please be a good social citizen...
Been there, done that! I'm now waiting for repairment but those persons
who started to make me angry act just like they don't know what they do.
You want me gone? %-> Try to teach THEM a lesson on humanity!... 8-o
FS> Perhaps waving money under their noses will get you what you want...
Been there, done that! You can even count the interrest on top of that!
I do happen to have bought the book from Frank Da Cruz, it didn't buy me
anything... but i didn't expect anything neither, i must add.
FS> But please don't continue to dump all over them.
Nice way to ask but i'm the one who's being dumped on. I won't stop for
the love of you... "Love", i'm sure you must have heard of that one; i
have another here for you: "an eye for an eye"... I bet you must know
that one as well...
FS> It won't do anybody any good, including you.
The more it got, the more this topic was heading the wrong way (and from
the start) but i can assure you i was pushing in the other direction, it
isn't my fault if the team has chosen to work it the other way around...
You can take an old horse to the water but you can't force him to drink!
Lots of doors were open and now they are closed. %-7
FS> If I get any rants/flames in reply it'll just get you added to my
FS> spam filter, so please don't.
Please! Oh, please! Don't wait for me! Just do that, please! %-) If
i must find ancient satanic formulas to recite to help you do so i will!
FS> "For him who is able to keep you from falling... ...to the only God
FS> our Savior...
Quite obviously, the team and some people from this forum have misleaded
you in the big way when you made "first contact", euh... the 1st time!
There may be gods here but this kingdom here is quite chimeric at times;
that's nothing like the vision you can have of the heaven, dear soldier!
What's more, there's no savior here. Have you noticed how the last part
of Ng's message was disregarded?... Doesn't it sound familiar by now???
Wrong place! You were misleaded, i'm telling you!!!
%'D)
Michel Samson
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* Peculiar bucolic scene: Fred S. comes to a stop, takes a break... *
* lets you see a little bit more of the whiteness around his immense *
* eyes and then... and then pinch your nose and run for your life! *
* *
* A thought inspired by Columbia's University `Kermit-95' task force. *
************************************************************************